Ntsib Joyce Elauria, Tus Kws Ua Haujlwm Kev Ruaj Ntseg thiab Tus Poj Niam Tseem Ceeb hauv STEM
Tsis ntev los no, peb muaj sijhawm los xam phaj Joyce Elauria, Tus Kws Ua Haujlwm Saib Xyuas Kev Ruaj Ntseg ntawm Okta, kom paub ntau ntxiv txog nws txoj haujlwm thiab kev ua haujlwm. Nyeem rau kom paub ntxiv.
Koj puas tuaj yeem piav qhia rau peb tias koj ua dab tsi?
Kuv txoj hauj lwm tsis yog ib txoj hauj lwm yooj yim piav qhia, txawm rau kuv cov phooj ywg uas kawm qib siab.
Yog li, txoj hauv kev zoo tshaj plaws uas kuv tau pom los piav qhia kuv txoj haujlwm yog xav txog kev ua yeeb yaj kiab. Txhua qhov chaw ua yeeb yaj kiab muaj cov neeg saib xyuas kev ruaj ntseg. Cov neeg saib xyuas kev nyab xeeb kom paub tseeb tias cov neeg ua yeeb yaj kiab ua yeeb yaj kiab ua raws li txoj cai. Lawv xyuas kom meej tias cov koob yees duab kev ruaj ntseg tau nce, khiav, thiab ua haujlwm. Thiab lawv kuj ua kom paub tseeb tias, thaum twg peb muaj cov qhua saib cov yeeb yaj kiab hauv theatre, lawv ua raws li cov cai thiab. Cov neeg saib xyuas kev ruaj ntseg xyuas kom txhua tus paub qhov chaw tawm thaum muaj xwm txheej ceev yog tias muaj dab tsi tsis raug. Thiab lawv ua kom muaj kev nyab xeeb tag nrho thiab kev ua lag luam zoo tshaj plaws ntawm cov yeeb yaj kiab ua yeeb yam.
Niaj hnub no, txhua tus muaj "kev ua yeeb yaj kiab" hauv lawv lub tsev. Qhov kev ua yeeb yaj kiab ntawd yuav yog Netflix, lossis Amazon Prime Video, lossis Hulu, lossis ntau qhov kev pabcuam streaming sib txawv. Kuv txoj hauj lwm zoo ib yam li ib txwm ua yeeb yaj kiab ua yeeb yaj kiab saib xyuas kev ruaj ntseg, tshwj tsis yog cov chaw ua yeeb yaj kiab tau khiav hauv computer. Tab sis txoj kev uas peb ua nws tsis yog nrog cov kev cai ruaj ntseg tso rau ntawm phab ntsa lossis lub koob yees duab kev ruaj ntseg. Hloov chaw, peb siv cov ntawv sau npe thiab software.
Nov yog kuv txoj hauj lwm ua tus kws ua haujlwm ruaj ntseg. Kuv tuaj yeem ua tus saib xyuas kev nyab xeeb ntawm koj cov yeeb yaj kiab hauv online (txawm tias kuv tsis ua haujlwm rau Netflix lossis lwm yam kev ua yeeb yaj kiab). Kuv kuj tuaj yeem ua haujlwm kom ruaj ntseg cov rooj sib tham hauv online lossis lounges, xws li Facebook, Twitter, thiab lwm yam.
Peb tseem tuaj yeem saib xyuas cov cai kom ntseeg tau tias txhua qhov chaw tshiab tsim tau raug thiab ua raws li kev txhawj xeeb txog kev nyab xeeb. Peb xyuas kom meej tias cov khoom raug teeb tsa kom raug. Nws zoo li ua kom muaj chav tshiab hauv chav ua yeeb yam ua raws li cov cai tswj kev nyab xeeb. Puas yog mus txog qhov hluav taws kub? Cov kav dej puas tau ua tiav lawm? Nws yog tib yam, tab sis peb ua kom muaj kev nyab xeeb ntawm software. Peb ua kom paub tseeb tias tsis muaj cov xau hauv cov kav dej zoo li cov kav dej. Tsis muaj software engineer zoo meej thiab qee zaum yuam kev tshwm sim. Thaum lawv ua, kuv nyob ntawd los pab.
Koj txoj kev kawm thiab/lossis txoj kev ua haujlwm yog dab tsi? Koj mus qhov twg tam sim no koj nyob qhov twg?
Kuv txoj kev kawm thiab kev ua haujlwm tau zoo heev. Thaum kuv pib kawm ntawv theem siab, kuv paub tias kuv kawm lej thiab science vim kuv tau qhab nia xeem (thiab cov xibfwb qhia kuv tias kuv kawm lej thiab science). Muaj kev tsis ncaj ncees uas cov poj niam nyiam mus rau hauv txoj haujlwm saib xyuas, thiab cov tshuaj ntawd yog txoj hauv kev cov poj niam ntse coj mus rau cov haujlwm ntawd, yog li cov neeg pom kuv lub zog thiab xav kom kuv los ua tus kws kho mob. Tab sis kuv nyiam kuv cov computer science thiab calculus chav kawm hauv high school.
Thaum pib, kuv tsis quav ntsej kuv tus kheej nyiam hauv lej thiab khoos phis tawj, thiab kuv tau kawm biochemistry hauv tsev kawm qib siab. Kuv ua ib tug lifeguard thiab. Kuv yeej nyiam qhov adrenaline maj ntawm kev ua tus neeg saib xyuas thiab ua rau tus kws kho mob ER, yog li kuv xav tias kuv yuav dhau los ua tus kws kho mob ER. Tab sis kuv lub suab sab hauv tau hais tias kuv nyiam siv tshuab tiag tiag. Kuv kuj pom tias kev ua haujlwm-lub neej tshuav ntawm ER cov kws kho mob yuav tsis zoo rau kuv. Yog li, kuv txiav txim siab tias tsis yog qhov kuv xav ua nrog kuv lub neej. Kuv siv sijhawm me ntsis hauv cov chaw tshawb fawb tshawb fawb txog cov proteins thiab biomedical kho rau ntau yam, tab sis kuv pom tau tias kev tshawb fawb tsis yog "ua" rau kuv thiab.
Kuv yeej nyiam sau cov cai uas txheeb xyuas kuv cov ntaub ntawv hauv kuv qhov chaw tshawb fawb. Yog li ntawd, ntawm ib tug whim, kuv thov mus rau lub Informatics Department ntawm University of Washington, thiab kuv (los ntawm qee qhov txuj ci tseem ceeb) tau txais nrog me ntsis coding kev sib piv rau ntau lwm tus. Los ntawm qhov ntawd, kuv paub tias kuv nyiam siv tshuab, tab sis kuv kuj paub tias kuv nyiam lub tswv yim pab tib neeg. Lub tswv yim ntawm kev zam txim rau qhov ua yuam kev thiab nyob ntawd thaum tib neeg xav tau kev pab tau thov. Lub tech version ntawm qhov ntawd yog kev ruaj ntseg cyber, yog li kuv tau txiav txim siab tshwj xeeb hauv.
Kuv tau thov rau internship thaum kawg ntawm kuv lub xyoo laus. Cov neeg feem coob kawm tiav plaub xyoos (qee tus txawm sim ua tiav peb xyoos), tab sis nws tau siv kuv tsib xyoos vim tias nws siv sijhawm ntev los txiav txim siab seb kuv xav ua dab tsi (thiab tsis yog tib neeg xav kom kuv ua). Kuv kawm tiav nrog ob degree hauv biochemistry thiab ntaub ntawv xov xwm. Qhov ntawd yog qhov kuv tau txais qhov kuv nyob niaj hnub no. Kuv tau txais kuv qhov kev xyaum ua haujlwm thiab kuv tau dhau los ua tus kws tshaj lij kev ruaj ntseg puv sijhawm.
Txhua tus tuaj yeem tau txais txiaj ntsig los ntawm kev sim ntau txoj hauv kev ntawm lawv txoj kev mus rau txoj haujlwm kawg. Yog tias koj tsis paub ntau txog dab tsi tawm, ces koj yuav tsum sim cov khoom tawm kom pom tseeb tias nws yog qhov zoo rau koj. Tsis muaj coob tus neeg muaj xws li ib tug huab pivot los ntawm squishy nqaij thiab kua-nyob rau hauv-tube mus rau lub computer vwm. Nws nyuaj rau xav tias kuv tau ua qhov yog nrog kuv txoj kev ua haujlwm.
Tab sis kuv yuav tsum tau ua qhov kev pheej hmoo. Koj yuav tsum pheej hmoo yog tias koj paub tias nws yuav yog yam koj xav tau! Koj yuav tsum sim tej yam tsis yog vim koj yuav tsum ua lawv, tab sis vim koj xav ua lawv.
Dab tsi / leej twg yog qee yam ntawm koj qhov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws uas coj koj mus rau STEM?
Kuv niam yog ib tug xibfwb qhia txog biology ntawm ib lub tsev kawm ntawv qib siab hauv zej zog, uas ua rau kuv txaus siab rau kev tshawb fawb txog lub neej. Kuv nyob ib puag ncig ntawm science los ntawm kev mus. Kuv nyiam phau ntawv thaum ib tug me nyuam yog hais txog tshuaj lom dart qav. Kuv yuav nyeem nws txhua lub sijhawm. Kuv kuj tau saib ntau tus Mythbusters loj hlob thiab kuv tau txais kev cuam tshuam tshwj xeeb los ntawm Grant Imahara thiab Kari Byron (tsis yog Adam Savage lossis Jamie Hyneman, cov cim tseem ceeb ntawm cov yeeb yam). Cov neeg sab nrauv tau muaj kev lom zem hauv TV thiab kawm nug cov lus nug zoo los tshawb txog science. Los ntawm qhov ntawd, kuv nyuam qhuav paub tias yog qhov kuv xav ua—nug cov lus nug uas yog thiab nyob ntawd kom nthuav tawm cov ntaub ntawv.
Dab tsi yog qhov koj nyiam ntawm koj txoj haujlwm?
Qhov kuv nyiam tshaj plaws yog ntsib lwm tus neeg tsim kev mob siab rau thiab lwm tus neeg uas nyiam sib koom. Nws tsis yog cov khoom siv thev naus laus zis, tshaj tawm cov ntaub ntawv nthuav dav, thiab tsis ua haujlwm rau lub tuam txhab kub tshaj plaws ntawm kev ua lag luam. Nws yog tiag tiag muaj kev sib tham nrog lwm tus neeg nyiam thiab nkag siab vim li cas lawv nug cov lus nug uas lawv ua. Kuv nyiam ua si ntawm "vim li cas?" kev tshaj lij thiab kuv nyiam tuaj yeem daws teeb meem, vim tsis muaj dab tsi cuam tshuam ob tus neeg ntau dua li daws qhov teeb meem tib yam ua ke.
Muaj qhov kev xav tsis zoo uas cov kws tshaj lij thev naus laus zis ua haujlwm ib leeg, thiab qee txoj hauv kev uas yog qhov tseeb vim tias ntau txoj haujlwm yog solo. Tab sis txhawm rau kom tau txais txiaj ntsig zoo tshaj plaws ntawm txhua txoj haujlwm, koj yuav tsum tham nrog tib neeg, thiab koj yuav tsum siv zog kom nkag siab lawv. Kev lag luam tsis yog kev tsim khoom uas koj ua haujlwm, nws yog kev sib raug zoo uas koj tsim thiab.
Cov kws qhia paub zoo tshaj plaws - txoj haujlwm tsis yog hais txog cov qhab nia xeem. Thaum kawg, qhov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws yog koj txoj kev sib raug zoo nrog koj cov tub ntxhais kawm thiab nws zoo ib yam ntawm no hauv kev lag luam.
Koj xav li cas txog koj qhov kev ua tiav loj tshaj plaws hauv STEM?
Hauv kev muaj tiag, kev pheej hmoo sim tech txawm tias kuv twb tau nqis peev ntau hauv Biochemistry yog qhov kuv pom tias kuv qhov kev ua tiav loj tshaj plaws. Kuv nyob hauv kuv lub xyoo kawm ntawv qib siab thaum kuv tau hloov pauv - uas yog 75% ntawm txoj kev ua tiav.
Tab sis kuv tau pheej hmoo vim kuv xav ua nws. Kuv tau nqis peev kuv lub sijhawm hauv kev siv tshuab thiab kuv ua nws ua haujlwm. Thiab qhov ntawd yog tej zaum ib qho nyuaj tshaj plaws uas kuv tau ua - ua qhov hloov. Ua qhov kev pheej hmoo thiab ua rau nws zoo dua… thiab muaj kev ntseeg siab ntawm kuv tus kheej kom paub tias kuv tau txiav txim siab zoo, thiab kuv yuav ua raws li nws. Thiab muaj kev ntseeg siab tias kuv tuaj yeem hloov kev coj ua dua yog tias xav tau.
Puas muaj ib qho kev xav txog cov poj niam hauv STEM uas koj tus kheej xav kom tshem tawm?
Qhov kev xav loj tshaj plaws uas kuv pom yog qhov kev xav tsis zoo uas tsuas yog cov ntxhais uas muaj peev xwm ua tau zoo dua cov tub hluas tuaj yeem nkag mus rau STEM - tias cov poj niam yuav tsum muaj "natural aptitude" rau STEM kom ua tau zoo. Kuv pom tias nws yog qhov tsis tseeb loj uas koj yuav tsum ua kom zoo li Marie Curie, Ada Lovelace, lossis txawm tias Simone Giertz ua STEM.
Txawm hais tias koj ua tsis tau zoo hauv qee qhov kev kawm STEM (txawm li cas los xij koj yuav pom tias koj ua tiav lossis tsis ua haujlwm), koj yuav tsum paub tias muaj cov novices thiab muaj cov kws tshaj lij. Thiab koj tsis tas yuav yog tus kws tshaj lij txhawm rau ua STEM! Qhov no siv tau rau txhua tus - poj niam, txiv neej, tsis yog binary, lossis txhua yam koj tuaj yeem txheeb xyuas tau! Tsuav koj xav ua nws, thiab koj muab koj lub sijhawm thiab kev rau siab rau nws, qhov ntawd yog qhov tseem ceeb. Koj "natural aptitude" rau nws tsis yog koj qhov tseeb tiag. Nws tsis yog txhua yam-natural. Nws kuj yog tu thiab. Koj tsis tas yuav ua tau zoo ntawm STEM txhawm rau sim STEM.
Kuv tu siab vim kuv paub kuv cov phooj ywg uas ua tsis tau zoo ntawm STEM hauv tsev kawm theem qis, thiab lawv tsis xav tias muaj peev xwm txaus los txuas ntxiv hauv STEM. Ces lawv cia li txiav txim siab mus nrog cov ntws. Tab sis yog tias koj xav tau ib yam dab tsi tiag tiag, sib ntaus rau nws thiab nws yuav ua tiav.
Dab tsi tshwj xeeb zoo koj xav tias cov ntxhais thiab cov poj niam coj mus rau STEM?
Raws li tus kws tshaj lij kev ruaj ntseg cyber, kuv txoj haujlwm yog los ua tus neeg phem thiab kho cov teeb meem. Qee zaum, thaum nws los ntsuas cov lej, kuv pom tias muaj qee qhov yuam kev thiab kuv ping ib tus neeg ntawm kuv lub platform xa ntawv hais tias, "hav, koj yuav tsum kho qhov no". Qhov kuv coj los ua poj niam - thiab qhov no tsuas yog qhov kev xav ntawm lub zej zog uas kuv tau coj los rau hauv - yog qhov kuv coj nrog "kev xav ua ntej" lub siab. Kuv thawj qhov kev xav tsis yog los kho tam sim ntawd qhov uas tus engineer tau ua, tab sis kom muab kuv tus kheej tso rau hauv tus engineer khau (tus sau tus lej no) kom nkag siab tias yog vim li cas lawv tau ua. Tom qab ntawd kuv muab cov lus pom zoo ntau dua es tsis txhob hais lus tsis meej txog yam.
Ua kom ncaj ncees, qhov ntawd tau ua rau txhua yam ua tiav sai dua hauv kuv txoj kev lag luam thiab kuv txoj haujlwm, ua rau muaj kev nkag siab ntawm thawj qhov kev xav. Nws yog ib qho tseem ceeb. Thiab kuv xav tias ntau tus neeg uas loj hlob nrog poj niam ua ib feem ntawm lawv txoj kev loj hlob tau raug qhia kom pib nrog kev nkag siab. Rau cov poj niam, muaj ntau yam tseem ceeb ntawm kev nkag siab thiab tsawg dua nrog cov neeg uas tsis tau tsa nrog poj niam. Kuv nyiam nkag siab qhov zoo li no, coj nws mus rau lub rooj, thiab lees paub tias nws yog ib qho txuj ci. Yog lawm, nws yuav siv sij hawm ntau dua ntawm koj qhov kawg. Tab sis, zuag qhia tag nrho, lub tuam txhab zoo dua rau nws, thiab koj yuav tsim kev sib raug zoo nrog lwm tus engineers thaum koj coj nrog kev nkag siab. Cov engineers yuav kawm cov txuj ci tshiab thiab txoj hauv kev tshiab los mus rau qhov lawv ua, ib yam nkaus. Yog li, koj yeej pab lawv loj hlob. Nws yog ib qho kev xav zoo, thiab qhov tseem ceeb heev. Nws yeej them nws rau pem hauv ntej kom tu txij thaum pib.
Koj pom kev tshawb fawb, thev naus laus zis, engineering, thiab / lossis lej ua haujlwm ua ke hauv koj txoj haujlwm tam sim no li cas?
Qhov feem ntau tshwm sim nyob rau hauv STEM yog txoj kev tshawb fawb - uas "yog, yog li ntawd, vim hais tias" nqe lus peb xav txog thaum muaj qee yam tsis zoo hauv software. Nws yog thawj zaug uas koj xav txog vim yog tias koj tsis tuaj yeem twv ua ntej, thiab koj tsis paub tias yam yuav tsum mus li cas, koj yuav paub li cas yuav tsum tau kho? "Yog, yog li ntawd, vim tias" yog ib txwm siv hauv kev lag luam thiab peb siv nws los ua kev kwv yees thiab sim peb cov thev naus laus zis kom pom tias nws tuaj yeem daws qhov peb xav tau. Raws li qhov ntawd, peb txiav txim siab los ntawm peb cov kev soj ntsuam-kev txiav txim siab ua haujlwm kom paub tseeb tias lub tuam txhab ua haujlwm zoo.
Thiab tag nrho cov ntawd yog powered los ntawm lej. Peb yuav tsis tuaj yeem ntsuas peb qhov kev cia siab thiab ntsuas qhov tshwm sim yam tsis muaj tus lej. Txhua yam ua haujlwm ua ke.
Koj xav hais li cas rau cov ntxhais hluas xav txog kev pib ua haujlwm hauv STEM?
Sim tej yam tshiab. Mloog koj lub plab thiab sim tej yam tshiab.
Ua ncaj ncees, kuv zaum ob twv kuv lub plab thaum kuv txiav txim siab kuv nyiam siv tshuab thiab xav sim nws. Kuv zaum ob twv kuv qhov kev xav tam sim ntawd tawm ntawm tsev kawm theem siab thiab kuv tau ua qhov yuam kev ntawm kev yuam kuv tus kheej mus rau hauv biochemistry. Kuv nkim peb xyoos ntawm kuv lub neej nyob rau hauv ib daim teb uas kuv tsis tau mob siab rau (Kuv tseem xav tias biochem yog ib daim teb zoo heev! Nws tsis yog rau kuv xwb). Mloog lub cev ntawd. Tsis txhob twv nws thib ob. Thiab mus rau nws! Vim tias yog tias koj txaus siab, koj yuav nqis peev sijhawm rau qee yam - thiab qhov ntawd yog qhov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws tsav tsheb. Nrhiav kev txhawb siab hauv koj tus kheej, tsis yog los ntawm lwm tus.
Nrhiav qhov koj xav ua thiab tshawb nrhiav nws. Koj nyob hauv lub hnub nyoog ntawm cov ntaub ntawv. Google lom zem thiab qhov ntawd yog qhov kuv tau kawm feem ntau ntawm cov khoom. Kuv nyiam hais tias kuv niam peb txiv yog Google vim nws qhia kuv ntau yam. Thiab txhua tus hauv tsev kawm qib siab yuav hais tias Google yog thawj tus kws qhia ntawv.
Hauv kuv lub tswv yim ncaj ncees, Google tsis yog lawv tus kws qhia, lawv tau qhia lawv tus kheej! Nws yog kev tshawb nrhiav thiab cov lus nug uas lawv nug tias tau txais lawv qhov twg. Tsis muaj dab tsi phem yuav tshwm sim yog tias koj Google ib yam dab tsi txog STEM, yog li mus tom ntej thiab google hluav taws xob daim duab (los yog cov ncauj lus twg uas koj nyiam). Thaum kawg, nws tseem tab tom kawm thiab tsuav yog koj tsis siv koj txoj kev paub nrog kev xav phem, ces tsis muaj kev txaj muag hauv kev tshawb nrhiav STEM cov ncauj lus.
Koj xav tias dab tsi yog qhov tshwj xeeb ntawm Washington thiab STEM cov haujlwm hauv peb lub xeev?
Peb cia muaj cov qauv zoo tshaj plaws ntawm STEM cov haujlwm hauv lub tebchaws. Tej zaum kuv yuav tsis ncaj ncees vim kuv loj hlob ntawm no, tab sis yog tias koj xav mus rau hauv cov khoom siv biochemical, peb muaj lub koom haum ntawm Protein Design. Peb muaj UW tshuaj. Peb muaj Fred Hutch Cancer Center. Peb muaj Seattle Children's Research Institute ntawm no thiab. Peb muaj ntau lub tsev kho mob loj thiab ntau lub tsev tshawb fawb loj uas koj tuaj yeem kawm thiab ua haujlwm. Peb kuj muaj lub sijhawm zoo rau dej hiav txwv thiab dej hiav txwv biology, lossis roob ecosystems, lossis txhua yam uas koj xav tau thaum nws los txog Environmental Sciences. Peb muaj nws ntawm no thaum nws los txog rau engineering tej yaam num thiab tej yam uas muaj steel, hlau, khoom science, tag nrho cov khoom. Lub Xeev Washington Lub Tsev Haujlwm Saib Xyuas Kev Thauj Mus Los, thiab Txoj Haujlwm Teeb Rail yog qhov loj thiab nws tseem yuav muaj nyob rau xyoo tom ntej. Kev lag luam tseem tab tom loj hlob thiab muaj ntau lub cib fim rau engineering engineering ntawm no.
Rau aviation thiab aerospace, peb muaj Boeing thiab lwm lub tuam txhab. Yog tias koj xav ua thev naus laus zis, peb muaj ntau txoj hauv kev, xws li Valve (cov neeg tsim khoom ntawm Steam video game platform), Microsoft, Google, thiab ntau dua. Peb muaj txhua lub tuam txhab tech hauv qab hnub no. Koj tsis tuaj yeem pom ntau yam ntawm STEM lub sijhawm nyob txhua qhov chaw; nws dav heev.
Tseem muaj kev xaiv tub rog ntawm no. Peb muaj ntau lub hauv paus tub rog hauv Washington yog tias koj xav pab txhawb rau qhov kev taw qhia ntawd. Cov no tseem yog cov haujlwm STEM, thiab lawv tseem vam meej.
Washington yog lub xeev tshwj xeeb ntawm lub sijhawm.
Koj puas tuaj yeem qhia qhov tseeb ntawm koj tus kheej uas qee tus neeg yuav tsis paub?
Kuv xav ntau txog qhov no, thiab kuv mob siab rau cov zej zog, yog li kuv xav tias qhov no tseem ceeb.
Kuv xav tias kuv yog bisexual nyob rau qib 10. Nws siv sijhawm ntev rau kuv kom paub nws. Kuv tsis paub los ntawm kev mus. Kuv yeej tsis tau tawm mus txog thaum kuv kawm ntawv qib siab junior. Nws coj kuv peb xyoos los tawm. Thiab kuv xav tias nws yog ib qho tseem ceeb los muab tso rau ntawd.